Battles manual 2008 bmw m3 dct vs cvt vs automatic

When i was a young teenager the prevailing thought in my town was that automatic transmissions were inferior to manual transmissions. Which transmission is better, an automatic or a cvt. The recent evolution in gear shifting technology has taken the automotive world by storm. Its quite shocking how it drives in comparison to my manual m3 part 2 will be. Aug, 2015 bmw m4 bmw bmw m4 manual bmw m4 dct transmission click to load disqus comments for this story this enables disqus, inc. Part 1 of 3 watch as i drive a dual clutch m3 for the first time. Dual clutch transmissions are taking over the world, they are great but are we missing out on the joy of the manual transmission. Johnny campbell is an 11 time baja champion and in this video compares riding over really rocky terrain with a dct vs manual transmission.

Gone are the days when changing the gear while driving used to be a serious affair as with the advent of the revolutionary automatic engine transmission technology things are looking the other way and the sun is shinier than ever for the automobile industry. Mar 14, 2016 the manual is an iteration on the m3 and m4s which itself was an iteration of the one found in the 1m. The manual gearbox in the e92 m3 is one of the best if not the best ive driven. Automatic transmissions have gone through many changes since being introduced by oldsmobile for 1940, but rarely have there been as many different types offered as there are today. Additionally, continuously variable transmissions cvt have existed for just about as long as both traditional manual and automatic transmissions, but did not see much use until the 1950s. Ultimately, in the battle of the dct vs manual gearboxes, for outright. Also known as semiautomatic transmission or clutchless manual transmission. Ive drive manual a few times before and got the hang of it pretty quickly so i think its probably worth the risk.

This gives cvt a level of flexibility as it allows the input shaft to keep a constant angular. In talking to a number of transmission mechanics, i have yet to hear a single one say they preferred a cvt over a true gear transmission other than the simplicity of rebuilding. Apr 01, 2020 a manual transmission is also known as a stickshift, and that says it all the driver literally uses a stick to change gears. Nov 16, 2014 on the 2015 bmw f80 m3, the german manufacturer chose to live up to its motto, the ultimate driving machine and keep the manual transmission alive, even though sales showed a clear. The 2012 ford escape hybrid uses an electronicallycontrolled cvt. I found the manual a little touchy as maybe i just need to get used to it as i used to drive a vtec gsr 5speed. But this may really be because drivers do not feel or hear the. Would prob result in decent gas savings considering all the freeway miles i drive, but that option was a little spendy. Ultimately, in the battle of the dct vs manual gearboxes, for outright performance, the dct gearbox is the undisputed winner. Cvt s have been around for many years, nissan is the world leader in this technology and holds over 600 patents on their version. Jul 02, 2011 the 2012 ford escape hybrid uses an electronicallycontrolled cvt. Driving the bmw m2 around laguna seca with a dct felt like the right choice. Stick shift is the way to go if you are looking for fun. Apr 03, 2017 part 1 of 3 watch as i drive a dual clutch m3 for the first time.

Dual clutch vs manual transmission bmw m4 bmw blog. Drivers accustomed to traditional automatic transmissions may feel the cvt is more sluggish. Also hows the gas mileage on the manual when youre just cruising vs. Traditional automatic vs dct vs cvt so, i just wanted a little bit of education and why people like and dislike dcts and cvts and why they miss the traditional automatics. Jan 15, 2008 however, it is operated like an automatic. Bmw development chief envisions the manual transmissions last. More expensive models like the bmw m3, the porsche 911, and the jaguar ftype also come with a manual, though you might have to specialorder one. In other words its about perfect with excellent weighting, precision and feel. I have a 3 speed manual, a 5 speed manual, a 3 speed automatic, 4 speed automatic, and a 5 speed automatic, plus a cvt. Manual vs auto vs dct vs cvt acceleration comparison 0. Its quite shocking how it drives in comparison to my manual m3 part 2 will be released tommorow.

She loves driving the auto 335, so the dct m3 would get her onside. But depending on your needs this doesnt mean one is superior than the other. This was in the mid60s when most teenagers drove cars and. Jul 16, 2016 bmw claims theres only a couple of tenths in it, 4. This gives cvt a level of flexibility as it allows the input shaft to keep a constant angular velocity. For driving fun and enjoyment the manual gearbox wins. This is a subaru forum comparing cvt vs manual xmission. The manual is an iteration on the m3 and m4s which itself was an iteration of the one found in. How does a dual clutch transmission compare to a cvt. Finally, a dualclutch automatic gearbox often shifts gears in mere milliseconds.

For driving in heavy stop and go traffic, where you might take 8 changes of the l. I wanted a manual, but had a limited budget, so i got a mazda protege 5, which i. Cvt transmissions, manumatics, and conventional 4 or 5speed automatic transmissions allow for some excellent acceleration, there is still usually a substantial difference in 060 times between these types of. You can view their inventory, including the listing to this m3, at. Bmw m4 bmw bmw m4 manual bmw m4 dct transmission click to load disqus comments for this story this enables disqus, inc. My current car is a 2008 honda accord v6 with a 5 speed automatic. The m dct transmission adds a third dimension to the model. An automatic typically requires less maintenance than a manual as well, though that can vary from model to model. The amt gearbox doesnt cost much, in the vitara brezza, you have to pay rs 50,000. I would suggest replacing the clutch as soon as possible after you buy the car since it is 15 years old. For me, i drive a 20 honda fit sport hatchback that has a dct and i love it to pieces but have heard that it is hard to fix if it is damaged.

Although the presentation on the showroom floor is still pretty much bipolar. How to choose between a car with automatic or manual. However, if the manual car is badly driven, you will experience a lot of problems with the gears themselves. Our verdict on the bmw 3 series m3 convertible m dct. What do you like better, the manual or auto on the 335i. Our main reason for chosing cvt is the mpg it offers. Bmw claims theres only a couple of tenths in it, 4. Sep 21, 2016 todays automatic transmissions, too, have developed up to ten forward gears, some of which can shift in as little as 100 milliseconds. Modern automatics are much more efficient than those of old. Following are technical descriptions of the four basic types that have been used of late, but if you prefer to simply know how they might affect the driving experience, just skip down to the on the road section. A naturally aspirated, front mounted, high reving v8, spinning the rear tires and pushing over 410 bhp is not something you will be able to buy in th. I can think of only a single near luxury as they say american car with a manual and that is the new cadillac. Your dads first car might have had a steering column or dashboardmounted shifter, but in a modern car, the shift lever is almost always mounted vertically on the center console and connected to the transmission via a linkage.

Good economy and the joy of a automatic transmission in bumper to bumper traffic, so if the purpose of the car is strictly going to be commute in the city then the cvt is the better option but in every other aspect the manual is the best also the manual gearbox weighs a little bit less reducing the overall. The nextgeneration 20012006 m3 s optional sixspeed smg automated manual shifted so necksnappingly hard that. A manual transmission is also known as a stickshift, and that says it all the driver literally uses a stick to change gears. However, before you buy an automatic car, there are a few things you should know. The amt automatic manual transmission amt stands for automatic manual transmission, the twisted lovechild of the auto and the manual. The cars used in the comparison are very similar, so it gave me a. Which transmission is better for somebody that wants power. Im asking this so i can decide between both transmissions when its time to buy a new car. My wife and i have been driving manual xmissions for well over million miles. Ultimately this will be my first car i will own thats actually manual so i dont want to risk learning how to drive it on the m235i but i agree that manual is the way to go for the true driving experience. Mar 02, 2018 difference between manual vs automatic transmission vs cvt which one should your next car have manual transmission makes your drive more engaging and fun while automatic transmission gives you a. I wanted a manual, but had a limited budget, so i got a mazda protege 5, which i consider an economy car.

If youre trying to get an under powered car up a hill or for merging into traffic, the cvt wins. Perhaps bigger news than the bike itself is the honda vfr1200fs muchanticipated dualclutch transmission dct model. The nextgeneration 20012006 m3s optional sixspeed smg. A fivespeed automatic transmission offered in the 19951999 m3 was for poseurs. Instead of a torque converter, they have an automated clutch it can be a wet clutch or a dry clutch but its a clutch, not a. Normal automatic typically rob about 20% of the engines power before it hits the wheels, manual transmissions rob only 3% of power. I dont feel like i am ready to settle into the lazy ways of an auto driver just yet. The sibling rivalry between automatic and manual transmissions has raged in the u.

I made the mistake of driving a porsche boxster with pdk and then 5i with dct automatic and then sat in the m235i and its non dual clutch zf torque converter auto paled in comparison to both of those. Apr 01, 2020 an automatic typically requires less maintenance than a manual as well, though that can vary from model to model. For todays video, i talk about and compare my experiences with bmw s dct dual clutch transmission, and the bmw 6speed manual. Every bit a performance car, and offering topdown motoring, the m3 convertible is a worthy addition to the range. Manual is low cost maintanence in case of problems compared to automatic. Huge thanks to streetxtreme for providing this m3 for todays video. This variant does have a clutch but is taken care of by the computer onboard. Also known as semi automatic transmission or clutchless manual transmission. A cvt, or continuously variable transmission, also known as a singlespeed transmission, pulley transmission, and stepless transmission, is an automatic transmission system that can shift seamlessly through a continuous range of gear ratios. Manual vs auto vs cvt vs smg vs steptronic vs home. Cvts have been around for many years, nissan is the world leader in this technology and holds over 600 patents on their version. How to choose between a car with automatic or manual transmission. Dualclutch vs automatic transmissions understanding dct cj. To me it sounds like a match made in heaven because when i ride over really rowdy terrain the constant shifting and need to slip the clutch going up hills can be a.

Cvt transmissions, manumatics, and conventional 4 or 5speed automatic transmissions allow for some excellent acceleration, there is still usually a substantial difference in 060 times between these types. Jan 15, 2018 stick shift is the way to go if you are looking for fun. Nick murray takes his bmw m4 with a dual clutch transmission and compares it against another m4 this time with a manual gearbox. Mar 07, 2017 similar to dct vs torque converter as well. Are bmw automatic transmissions less reliable than manual. At least it wasnt the miserable vw beetle automatic stick shift which was a threespeed manual with an electric servooperated clutch activated by a microswitch on the base of the gear lever just what a 53 hp car needs, fewer gears in which you were supposed to ignore 1st gear, start in d1 actually 2nd gear and shift to d2. Honda manual vs cvt general discussion car talk community. But the smg monstrosity that i tried in a m3 a year or two ago was a serious letdown. Although the four types of automatic transmissions conventional, cvt, automated manual, and dual clutch automated manual all operate without a clutch pedal and can be set to shift for themselves, they each exhibit slightly different driving characteristics. Some believe the cvt offers a smoother ride while others do not like the driving experience afforded by the cvt.

Feb 08, 2017 more expensive models like the bmw m3, the porsche 911, and the jaguar ftype also come with a manual, though you might have to specialorder one. But my logic was that the dct might be better 20% of the time in traffic or at the track and less fun. Difference between automatic vs manual vs cvt gearbox. What honda has developed for the sport bike world is an automatic shifting. Trying to buy a new honda civic lx hatchback but it looks like no manuals were. On the 2015 bmw f80 m3, the german manufacturer chose to live up to its motto, the ultimate driving machine and keep the manual transmission alive, even though sales showed a clear. Dec 05, 2017 a cvt, or continuously variable transmission, also known as a singlespeed transmission, pulley transmission, and stepless transmission, is an automatic transmission system that can shift seamlessly through a continuous range of gear ratios. Normal automatic typically rob about 20% of the engines power before it hits. The transmission allows the vehicle to change gears, thereby transferring power from the engine to the drive axle. But a dual clutch transmission is not an automatic transmission. Mar 07, 2017 the dct provides a more engaging driving experience, while the cvt provides better efficiency at the expense of driving fun. Do manual transmission cars perform better than automatic. Keep lining up for a stick, and well keep making onejuly 31, 2018in bmw. Todays automatic transmissions, too, have developed up to ten forward gears, some of which can shift in as little as 100 milliseconds.

Auto vs dual clutch vs cvt auto expert by john cadogan. The rev matching is an excellent addition to the recipe bmw please take my money and put this on my 1m that allows you more focus on gear changes and. But this may really be because drivers do not feel or hear the gears shift with a cvt as you would with an at. This is a little off the subject but it involves manual vs automatic transmissions. If you want the most power from your engine, going with a manual transmission is most likely going to be your best bet. Aug 07, 2008 a fivespeed automatic transmission offered in the 19951999 m3 was for poseurs. Manual vs auto vs dual clutch vs cvt heres what you need to know about the most common four transmission types on the modern showroom floor including how you can most easily break them. Manual available on traditional sports cars, economy cars, and foriegn sports sedans. If youre looking for a commuting tool that offers the best mileage for your dollar, cvt is the way to go. The dct shifted quicker and allowed more focus on the trickier parts of the track.